Hanging Collection [Part 1]

[Snerdguy]

Can somebody contact the Iranians and suggest they put their hangings on live web cam? It would probably draw a lot of interest.

 

[jeb]

Can somebody contact the Iranians and suggest they put their hangings on live web cam? It would probably draw a lot of interest.

They dont really like westerners seeing them. It's intended to terrorize only their population.

 

[Cockpitt]

http://www.imagebam.com/image/1058cc167452129


great!!!!

 

[jayess95]

That's a remarkable set of photos from the double hanging in Qazvin. Thank you, tepau, Ropetrick, and IIIII, for your efforts on our behalf. One hanged man bleeding profusely from the mouth after being turned off is an unusual element; perhaps he bit his tongue while he was strangling in the noose. Regarding the Iranian government's efforts to intimidate their own people, it's interesting that they often stretch offenders' necks near sunset, or sometimes even under the lights after dark. They may be hanging people after school and working hours in order to ensure a good crowd.

 

[Pacific]

nice pants!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or1b62kRTNM

I like him. Thanks.

 

[Pacific]

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Great Photos. Thanks.

 

[tepau]

thanks for all new pics and happy new year

sorry for my english

 

[medico]

amazing collection

 

[juniorman]

remarkable collection

 

[ropetrick]

Outlawbiker, all victims of Iranian hangings are slowly strangled to death on the noose, either by being turned off stools and dropping maybe 1- feet, or by being hoisted up by a crane, or by being stood on the back of a car or lorry which then drives off, leaving them hanging from a traditional gallows. The numerous videos of Iranian hangings show the victims hanging for several minutes, and in many cases struggling (consciously or unconsciously) for several minutes as they hang to death. Some photos show the victim's being blue in the face, or having extremities – fingers, hands, toes, feet – that are turning blue, suggesting that have died from slow asphyxiation. Others would have died from having their blood supply cut off to the brain. In some cases, the hanging would have been slow and painful for 1-3 minutes before they lost consciousness, in others they would have lost consciousness after a few seconds, even instantly, although total death would not have occurred until after 15-25 minutes hanging. I'm not aware of any Iranian executions involving the neck being broken.... that happens in Kuwait, for example, where they receive a long drop.

 

[Raycarrt]

Ropetrick, can you say me why there is blood in the face of one of the guys? In hanging, the blood goes out for the nose? I know, the injuries in the neck, caused for the rope, can bleed, but in case of the nose bleed, what did happened? Thanks and forgive me if my english is not so good. Thanks again!

 

[jeb]

Ropetrick, can you say me why there is blood in the face of one of the guys? In hanging, the blood goes out for the nose? I know, the injuries in the neck, caused for the rope, can bleed, but in case of the nose bleed, what did happened? Thanks and forgive me if my english is not so good. Thanks again!

That will happen when the Jugular Vein has less blockage that the Carotid Artery, and pressure builds in the head until capillaries burst to relieve the pressure.
Unconsciousness occurs in about 8 seconds, sometimes a few seconds more but not minutes.

Both can be affected by rope placement. When you see someone hanged with their undershirt caught in the noose, it's a clue that the placement was sloppy.

 

[potter10]

#2854, last clip, pic #23.....see the piss dripping

 

[amous]

new case I think...

 

[Meatpie]

New to me amous, thanks.

 

[ropetrick]

Yeah, the guy in pic 23... the same guy who had the blood on his face and shirt.... has wet himself massively: his socks are full of piss!

Re Jeb's comments – and we've had this discussion before – in most cases of slow hanging, the victim may indeed pass out in a matter of seconds, with death taking place many minutes later while the victim is unconscious: who can truly tell? But it is clearly not always the case. For example, there is a video of four Iranian youths being hanged. Three of them hang almost motionless and are probably unconscious almost immediately, but a fourth struggles for a long time and is clearly consciously trying to free his hands and to relieve the pressure on his neck, rather than going into involuntary muscle spasms. You can see him consciously unravel the knot tying his wrists together, and his next action is to try to reach up to the noose around his neck but he is unable to fully lift his arm. The whole time, he has a look of agony on his face, and is clenching his teeth. There is no way that is an involuntary action, it's clearly conscious and directed: he is trying to free himself and to breathe. Also there are recent images of a hanging man in Iran looking around him, clearly looking at people in the crowd who are watching him die. He has massive amounts of drool hanging from his mouth, suggesting he has been hanging for more than 3 or 4 seconds when the picture is taken. Also, inconveniently for Jeb, there are a few first-hand reports of what it is like to hang, from people who have been reprived while hanging or revived afterwards. These all suggest being conscious for an extended period of maybe a minute or two. I', sure time concertinas when you hang, but even so.

 

[ropetrick]

I meant to say, I'm sure a few seconds feels an eternity when you are hanging, but the descriptions of a period of intense pain and lungs collapsed 'like plastic bags' and feeling 'bad', sometimes with muscle spasms, pass then into a period of flashing lights, intense headache and then a period of floating and lessening pain. Maybe all that happens within 8 seconds on the noose, but I doubt it somehow. Most hanging videos suggest that the spasming period where legs and arms begin jerking happens, if at all, after 1 or 2 minutes. So if people describe their legs jerking then this suggests they are still conscious after a minute or two. So Jeb is probably right about the majority of cases, but I've seen with my own eyes images and videos that suggest otherwise in a minority of cases, and the only people who really know – people who've been hanged by a hangman with the intention of killing them (rather than as part of a sex game or breath play session) and then revived – certainly seem to believe that they were conscious for a minute or two at least.

 

[ropetrick]

The gallows at Pretoria Central Prison, now part of a museum documenting the noble struggle for human rights and against the old apartheid regime in South Africa.

I've read numerous descriptions of executions on this gallows over the years, including eyewitness testimony. So here is a summary of what used to happen, taken from about 30 different sources.

The shout (translated) "Jacket and address" would indicate that an execution was shortly to happen, and meant that condemned prisoners should collect their clothes into a bundle and supply a forwarding address where the clothes should be sent after their hanging.

The gallows could hang up to seven men at a time – hence the seven pairs of painted footprints on the double trapdoor, which also show that prisoners were marched directly onto the trapdoor in a queue and then hanged where they stood.

Condemned prisoners were stripped completely naked in a holding cell and then dressed simply in a white, towelling robe with a hood, with no underwear or other clothes beneath it.

There were 52 steps up to the execution room itself, but this was no indication of the length of the drop, which was often only a few feet, if that, depending on the cruelty of the executioners.

Prisoners were made to walk up the 52 steps, naked beneath their execution gowns. Political prisoners of the long struggle against the racist apartheid regime were reportedly usually calm and brave, but common thieves and other criminals often struggled and some, witness statements say, sometimes defecated or urinated in the execution room as they were led onto the gallows.

This was not a problem. The smooth floor of the execution room could be hosed clean, and immediately beneath the gallows (one floor down) was an enclosed, watertight area, like a small, shallow swimming pool. This was the sluicing room with a water hose, and it was over this that the prisoners hanged.

The gallows, and the prisoners' robes, were designed as they were to deal with the mess – faeces, urine and (on some reported occasions, including testimony from a hangman) semen – from several hanging men. The robes were designed to hide the hanging prisoner's backsides and penises from the executioner, priest and guards during their executions, while allowing any mess to fall away from their bodies as they struggled on the noose, minimising the unpleasant laundry task of washing the robes, which were reused, after execution. (Prisoners used to be hanged in prison uniforms, but the laundry workers complained, unsurprisingly, about having to deal with the aftermath of prisoners having messed themselves while being executed.)

Although the gallows were designed for a long drop, prisoners – usually the political prisoners – often received a drop of only a foot or two, or a metre. There is a photograph of a Pretoria hanging (which I've lost, sadly) showing prisoners hanging in their robes after a drop of only 12-18 inches. In the picture, most of the prisoners' bodies are above the trapdoor, with only their shins – and in one case, a prisoner's feet – actually beneath the drop.

Some prisoners, scared of what it was going to be like to be strangled on the rope would, the night before their execution, reportedly 'practice' being breathless by holding their breath for long periods, or putting their hands around their own necks and squeezing.

After walking up the steps to the gallows in their gowns with their arms strapped behind them, and led, sometimes incontinent, onto the platform, the prisoners were noosed, and then the hood of each of their execution robes was pulled over their head to hide the prisoner's face as he hanged. The double trapdoor, which weighed over a ton, would open beneath them (one door beneath each foot) and the prisoners would drop whatever distance the executioner had prepared for them. Sometimes, their necks would be broken, but many times they would simply be left to hang until they died.

The prisoners would hang, naked beneath their robes, and either during the execution or post mortem, their bladders and bowels would empty – an effect you can see in many pictures of iranian and Kuwaiti hangings – with the mess falling into the sluicing area beneath them. There were powerful extractor fans beneath the gallows to minimise the smell.

Once the prisoners had died, their robes would be removed while they were still hanging on the nooses, leaving them hanging naked and dead on the ropes. Guards would then hose down the naked prisoners, cleaning any mess off their buttocks and legs, after which they would be taken off the ropes.

A testimony from a woman who worked at the prison said that she witnessed the aftermath of a hanging and saw the prisoners' erect members. A hangman interviewed by actor/writer Antony Sher for a novel set in apartheid South Africa, in which a prisoner is hanged, confirms many of these details, including the naked prisoner and the fact that some had erections and would ejaculate. A fictionalised description of a hanging, on this gallows, features in his novel 'Cheap Lives', and includes descriptions of the prisoner's erect penis and the hangman confirming that there is sometimes semen on the floor beneath the gallows.

 

[ropetrick]

More from the Pretoria gallows and museum. Pics from a PDF leaflet about the gallows, confirming some of the details, such as the sluicing area – called a blood collection pit to prevent embarrassing visitors – beneath the gallows. Visitors are told a sanitised version of the truth, contradicted by numerous witness reports and testimonies over the years. I guess telling visitors that this is where dying prisoners defecated, pissed and sometimes lost control of their manhoods as the hangman made some of them suffer for as long as he could, might appeal to CDG members, but less to the average visitor to the musem.

 

[amous]

new (?) Iran



missed one, here it is: