Awww... bless you for that, good buddy! After the horrible day I had yesterday you've touched my silly patriotic British heart and made me want to cry. Yes, here's to our British Queen, happy and glorious, long to reign over us... Just look at her, buddy! Isn't she fine? She's the only monarch most of us have ever known. She's our link with the past when we were a proud and united people and we defied all comers, and she's still here for us now when we're tearing ourselves apart, but we're going to lose her, buddy, we're going to lose her. And what will we have left then to remind us of who we once were?

I tell you what our true friends in America can do for us. They can do everything in their power to stop the Tea Party spreading lies about us, telling the world that we've already caved in to the Muslims, that we're a bunch of godless socialists like the North Koreans, that we run death panels and leave our sick babies to die, that our old people shiver untended in hospital corridors and end their days with no one to feed them or clean up their mess, that our brave soldiers in Afghanistan are pussies fit for nothing except shooting Irish civilians. And stop them from lying about our history too, claiming Hitler would have conquered us if you Americans hadn't come to the rescue. We won the Battle of Britain long before you entered the war! (But we couldn't have won the war itself without your help.)

I know why the Tea Party are doing this. It's domestic politics. They're doing their darnedest to get rid of a clever, cunning, compassionate President who's trying to redistribute a little of America's wealth, while their agenda is for the rich to keep ALL the wealth for themselves. Ninety percent of the American people would never dream of voting for such a cruel agenda, so the Tea Party are having to resort to lies. First they tried the Muslim-in-Chief ploy. That didn't work. Then they tried the phoney birth certificate ploy. That didn't work. So now they're gunning for the President's 'socialist' policies of high government spending, state intervention and universal access to healthcare, and they're claiming that these are based on the British model, and everybody knows what a pathetic shambles of a country Britain is. Why do they know this? Because the Tea Party keep telling them so!

They're being very clever, and they're being very dishonourable. because most ordinary Americans are too busy putting food on the table and making sure the kids get a good education and following domestic issues to have much time to study British politics, so belief in the lies is spreaing like wildfire. The trouble is, my American buddy, the rest of the world is beginning to believe the lies too, and we're becoming a global laughing stock.

God save the Queen, buddy, and God bless America, but to hell with König Georg III and the Tea Party.
 
Just to make it absolutely clear, my ace-of-all-aces mate, we Brits love you Yanks just as much as you love us. Our two countries have been friends for well over a century because of our shared values. But there are over three million Muslims here who refuse to sign up to our values, and the only organisation in Britain that campaigns openly for them to be thrown out is the 'extremist', 'racist' English Defence League (the EDL). But the EDL draws its support from the white urban underclass, and Britain is such a class-ridden society that the middle classes sneer at the ill-educated EDL yobs with their St George flags and their 'Support the Troops' tee-shirts and their uncouth accents, while the Muslims are tolerated even when they carry green flags and campaign for the introduction of Sharia Law. Even more alarmingly, when London was burning last August it was the blacks who'd set fire to it! The country's fracturing along class lines, buddy, and there are so many classes and sub-classes, some of them like warring tribes, that the centre isn't going to be able to hold much longer and the whole thing's going to fall apart. I'm sure the Queen must think sometimes "How did this happen? How on earth did this happen? Haven't I always, no matter how many mistakes my children made, tried to set a good example? I might just as well never have existed." And one day she won't exist any longer, and our past will have died with her, and we'll be left with nothing, fighting each other in the dark.

And now I actually AM crying.

 
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You have your muslim problem, we have the fundie christians. Have you ever traveled to the bible belt? Scary place like you've stepped into a giant cult and there is no way out! :shock:
 
No, I've never visited the bible belt mate, but I'll be spending a month in Michigan this summer, and since I know a guy in Georgia...
Yes, the fundie Christians are scary people, if their blogs are anything to go by. I went on one - the admin was saying god's people should get out and vote for Ron Paul, the prophet Elijah had sent him a message and told him so. :eek:
btw: in Michigan they never seem to shut up about the shape of their state, always prancing about going "if you come from Michigaaan, put your mittens up, put your mittens up..." Do you reckon the folks in Florida make the same kind of fuss about the shape of THEIR state?. Maybe I'll visit Orlando and prance about in the middle of the night singing "If you come from Florida, get your dick out, get your dick out..." No, best not do that, cause I'd most likely be shot.
 
Craigie lad - as one of those ploor bloody infantry I can tell you we are better than just shooting (armed) Paddys - but we have been repeatedly sent to the Stan without a clear mission, with the correct or enough equipment and as a result too many of us have ended up as CDG s - which I know is our fate in life but for what ? We fight "them" over there while two weak governments let "them" in over here. Britain is allowing itself to be destroyed by an controlled entry of people from everywhere including the EU - and is strained by it and the political correctness shoved down our throats. Scotland suffers from less population pressure than SE England luckily. I want all illegal foreigners who are not needed to work gone, and out of the EU to stop more coming in. That doesn't make me EDL, am a Scot anyway, EDL are yobs, UKIP can't win, hopefully an independent Scotlsnd will control immigration. As a soldier I'll fight where I am sent but it would be nice to have a reason why.
 
Craigie lad - as one of those ploor bloody infantry I can tell you we are better than just shooting (armed) Paddys - but we have been repeatedly sent to the Stan without a clear mission, with the correct or enough equipment and as a result too many of us have ended up as CDG s - which I know is our fate in life but for what ? We fight "them" over there while two weak governments let "them" in over here. Britain is allowing itself to be destroyed by an controlled entry of people from everywhere including the EU - and is strained by it and the political correctness shoved down our throats. Scotland suffers from less population pressure than SE England luckily. I want all illegal foreigners who are not needed to work gone, and out of the EU to stop more coming in. That doesn't make me EDL, am a Scot anyway, EDL are yobs, UKIP can't win, hopefully an independent Scotlsnd will control immigration. As a soldier I'll fight where I am sent but it would be nice to have a reason why.

If anybody's still trying to defend our values it's soldiers like you. I think you're the last true British patriots, but I agree with you, you're in the wrong place. The people admire you and respect you, they love you. But what can you say about a prime minister who flies off for photo-shoots with 'the lads' while back in Britain the damaged lads who come home with broken bodies and wrecked heads can end up dossing on the streets because all the money's gone in welfare hand-outs to a bunch of parasites who'd probably yell 'baby-killer' at you if they knew you were a soldier? I hope Scotland doesn't leave the Union. At least the Scots still have some pride and a sense of their own identity. Seven million Scots are worth seven hundred million Muslims. :punch:
 
It's me, Pigfoot, it's me who's all over the place. I'm bi-polar.

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It would help your argument if the Quran said any of those things, which it doesn't. That doesn't change that there are idiot extremists that behave that way, but you're acting like that's what Islam and Muslims are about. That's kind of insane bigotry, isn't it?
 
Please, don't sugar coat any of the Abrahamic religions. They are all based on genocide, pillage, rape, violence. Here's an excerpt of the wonderful book of "peace", the koran:

"...now that a Book confirming their own has come to them from God, they deny it...they reply: 'We believe in what was revealed to us.' But they deny what has since been revealed, although it is truth...Say: 'Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel' (who has by God's grace revealed to you [Muhammad] the Koran as a guide...confirming previous scriptures)..will surely find that God is the enemy of the unbelievers.'...And now that an apostle has come to them from God confirming their own Scriptures, some of those to whom the Scriptures were given cast off the Book of God behind their backs...The unbelievers among the People of the Book, and the pagans, resent that any blessings should have been sent down to you from your Lord. " (Surah 2:88-, 98-, 103-) (Looks like the vindictive god hates all unbelievers and pagans)

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-) (Better hide all your statues of Jesus and Mary and the saints, all you catholics)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216) (More reason for jihads)

"Men are tempted [in this life] by the lure of women...far better is the return of God. Say: 'Shall I tell you of better things than these, with which the righteous shall be rewarded by their Lord? Theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell for ever: wives of perfect chastity..." (Surah 3:14, 15) (Martyrs, don't have sex in your earthly lives, wait for the promise of those virgins, you're out of luck if you like dudes I guess...)

"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19) (Isn't that god the same god as the one of judaism and christianity?)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119) (All religions seem to promote tribalism and fighting outsiders)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-) (The martyr's creed I suppose)

"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-) (Strange, you can have sex with your slaves but not with married women? Talk about wacky!)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-) (Religion of peace???)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18) (Haha, muslims are making fun of christian's belief of original sin)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) (Muslims are commanded to not be friends with the other closely competing religions. Jealousy I suppose)

"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-) (Hmmm. it seems that if muslims don't fight infidels, they'll incur god's wrath)


"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-) (Jihad)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-) (Jihad again)


"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-) (Muslims are directed to be especially violent against the other 2 Abrahamic religions which worship the same vengeful god)

"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-) (Who says muslims want to get along with other religions? Don't believe those "moderate" muslims who claim this. The last thing they want is to sing kumbaya around in a circle with christians, hindus, buddhists, atheists, etc.)

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-) (more Jihad)

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73) (Jihad, jihad, jihad! LOL)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-) (I guess those martyrs took this to heart when they crashed into the twin towers)


"'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88) (Looks like the muslims don't believe Mary gave birth to a child as a virgin...)

"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-) (Another reason for Jihads)

"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-) (God condones having slave-girls for carnal desires!)


"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29) (Thus their crusade against non-muslims, even christians who essentially share the same Abrahamic god)

"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-) (Allah being a pimp here)


SO TELL ME NOW THAT ISLAM OR ANY OF THE OTHER 2 ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS ARE RELIGIONS OF PEACE???:super mad:
 
is it true white cops and soldiers in britain are afraid of arab muslim middle eastern pakistani men and that the white men get humiliated by the muslims on a regular basis including getting stripped and beaten?
 
Agree with you. Now, How do you call a nation which hate Hitler but during 300 years, stolen slaves from Africa farced to go to unknown lands, more of them died before to arrived there. How many people did Brits killed than Hitler?
 
The real enemies are those fuckin people who try to make a destruction among our tolerancy about religion, just stick with your religion, caring about other religion is just wasting time
 
Islam dubs itself the religion of peace.. In all my years I have looked for it yet failed to see it. In actual fact Islam is not the Arabic word for peace but submission and surrender.

Islam's god is Allah.. They say this is the Christian god Jerhova too but that is a lie. Allah existed during the life of Mohammed specifically in the religion of his family and most of Mecca's population: Paganism! Allah and the crescent symbol adorned on all Islamic flags are of the Pagan moon god not our god.

Although I follow Christian tradition I do not follow it as they do Islam. Infact 90% of Christians don't follow their religion in the way Muslims follow Islam. Word for word they follow it and although the bible says homosexuality is wrong and talks of sinners going to hell we choose to disregard it and as the bible says "GOD WILL JUDGE" not man!

The Koran is specific! The Koran informs Muslims to kill non-believers, to push walls over gays and to carry out this frankly barbaric blood sacrifice they call Halal. Get this: They don't stun animals in the UK before they slice their throats because they complain the meat to be "impure". I also hate it when they use the race card to defend themselves because they are not nor ever will be a racial ethnicity. They are a belief system and such a word as "racist" shouldn't be used as loosely as it often is.

Like I say.. for years I have looked for the peaceful in Islam. I have not found it. I also have found that they will lie and twist history to suit their own agendas like the fact that Muslims never actually ruled Palestine or Hitler's Mufti which is never taught or reported even though World war 2 is something everyone should know about but it seems the fact one of Hitler's closest allies was a Muslim Leader of Palestine is a thing people like to bury and hide away. Nevermind the fact he spun lie to Hitler to get him to rid Palestine of all Jewish citizens.

People wonder why we gave the Jews Israel's land mass. Nevermind the Christianity history that dates back 2000 years and Jewish history 2000 years longer!
 
All religions and races have their extremists but it is unfair to blame the majority of good honest citizens with liberal views for those bigots. There is much good in Judaism and its children, Christianity and Islam. Snag is we never hear of these moderates who comprise the great majority and who are happy co existing with their fellow citizens, just the extremists who are encouraged by the press since it makes great copy and sells papers.
And certainly I should prefer to live in Britain than the U.S.A. This place seems a far more tolerant society and we seem able to separate religion and politics whereas you guys seem to intertwine them.
 
This country is too tolerant and frankly I think too afraid to stand up for itself.. In the Midlands the Muslims of Alum Rock complained about the CCTV cameras along the shops. These types of camera are infront of almost any shopping area up and down this country and yet WM police were publically apologising for the use of the camera because they were called "racist" and promised to remove them.. Cameras still exist everywhere else though.

I take part in numerous discussions about this in a number of online ways regarding how I see Muslims to be. When Charlie Hebdo and his team were murdered they all supported it because of a stupid cartoon of Pedo Mo. Every one of them deny that Lee Rigby ever existed, they deny the thousands of young Muslims joining ISIS all across the world are real Muslims and they spend more time condemning Israel than they do the likes of ISIS, Al-shaabab and Boko Haram! When Joan Rivers died they all cheered and showed no humanity because she supported Israel and whenever an inncoent Jewish citizen is murdered they rejoice and cheer also.. These are not good and peaceful people at all. You would be hard pressed to find any Muslim that showed an ounce of sympathy in any case above

Everyone says "the majority are peaceful" .. Well they must be the silent majority which in my opinion makes them no better. Islam either wants to rid this filth from their religion or it supports it and wants it to continue and because these 1.6 BILLION people do absolutely nothing I am inclined to believe the latter. As I say they will riot and bay for blood when their prophet is ridiculed but do nothing when a group kills their families?? A group they deny has anything to do with their religion.

What ever they or you say about Christianity it is making the effort to evolve with amnkind while Islam refuses to. Anyone who opposes them they are more than happy to slit them from ear to ear and hack their heads off screaming like a raving lunatic.. This ideology is on our streets now as proven with Lee Rigby and the continued young flying to Turkey and coming back radicalized...

The most amusing part I have seen and what most Muslims agree with is the expectation that these jihadi people can just waltz back into this country and resumed to where they left off when they have become a traitor to this country, radicalized by Isis, a threat to national security and yet expects us to accept nothing ever happened. For simply supporting this group they are responsible as this group is for their atrocities
 
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Hi mate.
Firstly I agree that the murderers of lee rugby and the atrocities in Paris cannot ever be justified. Secondly I agree that any lowlife who fights for Isis should be barred from ever returning here. Let him go rather to Saudi where they have proper ways of dealing with those they see as deviants and, unfortunately, those who stand up for liberalism. And no, I do not think that is the right approach, rather I believe that everyone can do whatever they want so long as no one is hurt.
However I still do contend that there are many good and honest Muslims who deplore the crimes and attitudes expressed on their behalf but without their approval. I have good Muslim friends who have the same liberal values as I hope I hold.
And for critisising them for not speaking out think of all those good Christians in Europe who allowed the democratic rise of Hitler and the subsequent genocide.
I should hate it if I were blamed for the extreme views of the chassidim and object strongly when it is assumed I must support Netanyahu.band in the recent election I voted for the liberal democrats despite disagreeing with some of their foreign policies.

Surely the same privilege should be accorded to the vast majority of Muslims
 
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I think if you immigrate to a country for a better life, you are not there just there to take take take, and complain all the time about how your homeland you left in the first place was a better place to live. Just go back.
 
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