Is the Catholic Church really a Satanic Cult that demands human sacrifice by burning?

[fireboots]

I have an obsession with burning at the stake that I've traced back to my early life going to a Catholic Church and School dedicated to the Canadian Martyrs who were burnt at the stake nude by the Iroquois. In my on going quest for information about Burning at the Stake and other forms of Human sacrifice by fire I kept running into connections with the Catholic Church.

Did you know that Adolf Hitler was a Catholic, raised in a strict Catholic family? So was Mussolini, and Franco, the leaders of the Fascist movement that ripped the 20th century. Even Stalin was tied to the Society of Jesus, i.e.: The Jesuits.

One of the most notorious death camps in Europe was the Croatian death camp of Jasenovac, which was largely run by Jesuits. They didn't bother gassing people before they cremated them, they just threw them alive and and naked into the furnace.

Check out: http://one-evil.org/
specifically: http://one-evil.org/content/ritual_human_sacrifice_burning.html
and:http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/gb0_persecution.htm

Fireboots

 

[New Yorker]

That's a very harsh claim. The church, and most religions, have done some pretty atrocious things in history.

I dont think they have done all these awful things due to satanic worship. I think they tortured and killed people in such a barbaric way to ensure society would be too terrified of them to question their authroity.

As a student of human behavior, I find this area of psychology to be one of the most difficult because we have clear empirical evidence that many people become savage beasts when they think they have absolute authority over someone else. People who have authority tend to take out their bitter frustrations on whoever they can which leads to serious problems. Many historians say Germany was willing to accept Hitler's ideology because they were fed up with the country's economic collapse after WWI.

 

[fireboots]

I actually agree with you New Yorker, personally I think that evil people work with with religious beliefs to further their own power. All religions play with basic human emotions and a need to belong. I think the Star Trek invention of the "Borg" was formed from such fears.

The links I posted do have compelling arguments about the manipulation and control of a religious organization, specifically the Catholic Church, to further evil and corruption, but this doesn't exclude other forms of evil in our daily lives.

Fireboots

 

[New Yorker]

Well, for most, if not all, of recorded history, humanity's major goal was to excert power over everything else. The very notion of capitalist world is that we sort out the weakest from the strongest people through competition.

But now technology and social change is causing power to become descentralised. The rise of modern democracy, the rise of secularism in the US and Europe are examples of how humanity is slowing mmoving away from this notion of absolute power. Unfortunatelly, many people are not willing to accept that and they will do anything they can to keep the wpr;d as it is with them at the top.

Humans are curious by nature and want to lnow what their role in the universe is. Religion gives a very simple and clear answer to that question. Philosophy and science on the other hand can only provided convoluted answers that most people cannot understand. The problem is, once u think u know who u are because u know your role in existance, u will do anything u can to protect that identity, even if it means yorturing and killing. This gives religious leaders far too much power.

 

[fireboots]

Yes religion simplifies life and choices which makes it easier to do horrible things. As for the de-centralizing, this is coming very slowly with those holding power fighting it tooth and nail. The monopolies are gaining strength everyday. I doubt any of us will live long enough to see true democracy.

On the satanic front it is interesting when I do the research into offering of Human Burning Sacrifices I found that it is all about maintaining power and control, not about the common good. Mass burnings send out powerful messages. In the Catholic Church the standard threat used to keep control is be a good Catholic or you will be cast naked into the flames of Hell. Burning people at the stake was a very visual way of reinforcing this.

I know this very well from personal experience in Catholic School. There was a huge print of Heaven and Hell in Mother Superior's office. When you were a bad boy (or girl for that matter), you were taken to Mother Superior where you were told to pull down you your pants and bend over a table staring at the "Hell" portion of the print full of naked people burning and being tortured then Mother Superior would strap your bare bottom. I was a very bad boy, once I stabbed a nun in the hand with my pencil. While Mother Superior strapped my bare butt she told me that this was to prepare me for when I would be cast naked in the fires of Hell.

I actually believe that all fundamentalist religions are a form of Satanism, except maybe Satanism itself which is at least honest about its intentions. Blindly following any religious path literally leaves you blind to the world around you.

 

[mxboots888]

Fireboots, the hegemony of religion in the US drives me nuts. We now have a referendum for a vote to allow or reject gay marriage in my state. The legislature already approved it, but of course a petition was made with the majority of signatures garnered from church congregations and paid volunteer signature gatherers. It's sickening. I used to be a disinterested atheist, but with the way 1/2 of congress votes by their scriptural beliefs imposing on my life, I have become a vocal antitheist now. You are lucky in Canada, where gay marriage is a federal right, and not an issue of the states/provinces. BTW I was also brought up catholic and went to a jesuit boarding school. You should see how blatant the child abuse was at that place!

 

[fireboots]

Fireboots, the hegemony of religion in the US drives me nuts.

You are lucky in Canada, where gay marriage is a federal right, and not an issue of the states/provinces. BTW I was also brought up catholic and went to a jesuit boarding school. You should see how blatant the child abuse was at that place!

mxBoots, we are lucky so far in Canada, but our current government keeps heading us down the path of social conservatism that has so much control in the States. They are likely to keep heading that way as the social liberal parties continue to split the centre-left vote.

I totally hear you about the blatant child abuse that took place in Jesuit Boarding schools, my school was Jesuit, and I'm part Mig Maw. The First Nations people of Canada were singled out for special treatment in these schools. If you have read my other posts you would know about the origins of my BATS fetish. I don't no if I shared this here, but the boys who tied me naked to a stake and lit the fire under me were all from the same Catholic School on a wilderness voyageur camping trip. They were going to burn "the fag", something that was actually taught to us in that Catholic School. Minor point, I could see that many of those boys were wanking as the flames started to lick my butt.

I've only recently started to see the total evil in the Catholic, and other fundamentalist religions. The Christians are quick to point out the evils of fundamental Islam, but they conveniently forget the evils of fundamental Christians.

I actually still have some faith in the real teachings of Jesus. One of his most important acts, the chasing out of the money changers from the Temple, is conveniently neglected by the Religious Right, along with the teachings about sharing the wealth, helping the common people and tolerance.