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    We're black!

    Now this is going to put the cat among the pigeons!
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    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...alysis-reveals

    First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals

    The genome of Cheddar Man, who lived 10,000 years ago, suggests that he had blue eyes, dark skin and dark curly hair

    Hannah Devlin Science correspondent

    The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.
    The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.
    It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture, strongly suggesting he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.
    The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today.
    Tom Booth, an archaeologist at the Natural History Museum who worked on the project, said: “It really shows up that these imaginary racial categories that we have are really very modern constructions, or very recent constructions, that really are not applicable to the past at all.”
    Yoan Diekmann, a computational biologist at University College London and another member of the project’s team, agreed, saying the connection often drawn between Britishness and whiteness was “not an immutable truth. It has always changed and will change”.
    The findings were revealed ahead of a Channel 4 documentary, which tracked the ancient DNA project at the Natural History Museum in London as well as creating a new forensic reconstruction of Cheddar Man’s head.
    To perform the DNA analysis, museum scientists drilled a 2mm-diameter hole into the ancient skull to obtain a few milligrams of bone powder. From this, they were able to extract a full genome, which held clues about this ancient relative’s appearance and lifestyle.
    The results pointed to a Middle Eastern origin for Cheddar Man, suggesting that his ancestors would have left Africa, moved into the Middle East and later headed west into Europe, before eventually crossing the ancient land bridge called Doggerland which connected Britain to continental Europe. Today, about 10% of white British ancestry can be linked to this ancient population.
    The analysis also ruled out an ancestral link with individuals inhabiting Gough’s Cave 5,000 years earlier, who appear to have performed grisly cannibalistic rituals, including gnawing on human toes and fingers – possibly after boiling them – and drinking from polished skull cups.
    Britain was periodically settled and then cleared during ice ages until the end of the last glacial period about 11,700 years ago, since when it has been continuously inhabited.
    Until now, though, it hasn’t been clear whether each wave of migrants was seeded from the same population in mainland Europe; the latest results suggest this was not the case.
    The team homed in on genes known to be linked to skin colour, hair colour and texture, and eye colour. For skin tone, there are a handful of genetic variants linked to reduced pigmentation, including some that are very widespread in European populations today. However, Cheddar Man had “ancestral” versions of all these genes, strongly suggesting he would have had “dark to black” skin tone, but combined with blue eyes.
    Scientists believe that populations living in Europe became lighter-skinned over time because pale skin absorbs more sunlight, which is required to produce enough vitamin D. The latest findings suggest pale skin may have emerged later, possibly when the advent of farming meant people were obtaining less vitamin D though dietary sources like oily fish.
    Cheddar Man would have lived a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, making sharp blades from flints for butchering animals, using antlers to whittle harpoons for spear fishing and carving bows and arrows.

    First Brit: Secrets of the 10,000 Year Old Man will air on Channel 4 on 18 February
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    Now who ever heard of a blue-eyed black man? I think these scientists, especially the uppity female ones, just say whatever comes to mind, and then aim withering stares at any layman who has the audacity to contradict. I personally think Cheddar Man HAD to have had red hair (and a large "man part"). How else can you explain the origin of Prince Harry?
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    We all started out as "black" in the very beginning in Africa, so it is not strange if people in Europe have been black in the beginning.

    Reading this results as devil is reading the bible you can say -We (white, christian democratics ) started out as as black savages, like the black humans still are, and developed in to the civilized and more intelligent white race of to day.

    This last sentence i added just to cause some choleric reactions from liberals and white supremacist alike. White boys and girls do need regular spanking or they will become intolerably obstinate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old bearkill View Post
    ...boys...do need regular spanking or they will become intolerably obstinate.
    This is an indisputable fact!
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    Especially Swedish "boys" in the 53 1/2 years age i guess.

    Hello nice to see You again Alex my friend!

    But how come that a ultra conservative republican like You is citing an old dead French Marxist like Deleuze?
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    Quote Originally Posted by old bearkill View Post
    how come that a ultra conservative republican like You is citing an old dead French Marxist like Deleuze?
    You know what? I had no idea who Deleuze was until you enlightened me just now. The statement "Life is not personal." caught my eye in some article, and it was attributed to Deleuze, so I gave him credit. It is true I am conservative (but not ultra), and I am indeed Republican-ish (though I'm not registered to vote). So, I would not knowingly have taken up with someone like Deleuze, who is old (I want young), dead (I need alive so the penis works), French (they are mean) or Marxist (I don't even know what Marxism is about). I don't know who Chris Kraus is either, but I like what he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old bearkill View Post
    We all started out as "black" in the very beginning in Africa, so it is not strange if people in Europe have been black in the beginning.

    Reading this results as devil is reading the bible you can say -We (white, christian democratics ) started out as as black savages, like the black humans still are, and developed in to the civilized and more intelligent white race of to day.

    This last sentence i added just to cause some choleric reactions from liberals and white supremacist alike. White boys and girls do need regular spanking or they will become intolerably obstinate.
    I won't rise to that little lot!

    How else can you explain the origin of Prince Harry?
    Easily - only about 10% of our modern British DNA comes from that first Mesolithic influx, the rest comes from later immigrants. As for Harry, on his mothers side I think the Spencers can trace their line back to Anglo-Saxon aristocracy. On his father's side - well despite that notorious comment when he fist got together with Meghan, I think it's a fairly open secret that the 'watery [and largely German] blue blood of the Windsors' does not run through Harry's veins - by the time he was conceived Charles was playing with Camilla and Diana with ... who knows? But clearly his 'man part' was fit for purpose!
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    Deaddirty, this calls for a final flash of the famous Harry Man Part. Now that that Meghan woman is in control of his pants, the public is unlikely to see any further photographs of his big red-haired wanger. I doubt very much if they will honeymoon in Vegas. It is a sad day for all dick lovers...

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