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I don't understand the world I live in. I try but I still don't get it.

And it seems the more you read and try to understand, the more lost you start to feel.

I hate how great minds of human civilization were destroyed before they could achieve their full potential.

Freud, Einstein, Bohr. They gave knowledge to the world and could have reached a fuller understanding of the universe had they lived longer.

They could have helped us with ideas, so we wouldn't feel so lost.

And human life is very short, I am really disappointed.

Not that immortality will have any meaning in an universe that is itself dying, but 60 or 80 or 100 years is fucking short to achive some gratification that you have lived and understood something about the place you lived in.

Just as you start to get the big picture, you croak.

We are victims of time.
 
Everything is a victim of time...eventually the universe will start contracting and collapsing on itself...what does that mean? IDK

This is what I have learned so far in my quarter century of life:

- Live as best you can, try doing things that make you happy.

-Not everyday will be a good day. Not everyday will be a bad day.

- LOVE, PAIN, AND HAPPINESS are as common in this universe as Carbon, Hydrogen, and vacuum.

- No use obsessing about avoiding death.

-Have a lot of sex.

-Be kind to your fellow man, but know when to be an asshole when need be.

-Young, hot, clueless guys make the best lay.

-War is here to stay. Whether is between states or gangs withing your community. We like to fight as much as we like to make love.


-Things that you loose you will most likely regain at a later time.


-When you really start to think about it, the penis is a very odd looking thing.


That's my list for now. No real answers to your question. I don't think we are suppose to find out. Just things I've learned so far.
 
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Great opinion thank you, I esp liked the part about the penis. Can you elaborate on that?

And btw most scientists now believe the universe will not contract and collapse back on itself.

That doesn't really matter - it will die anyway.

I am disappointed with the following:

- Human life is short and people are destroyed in bad ways.
- Everything is so transient, great moments pass so quickly.
- War and conflict make me angry and I don't like your view that war "is here to stay"

It is true that humans thrive on violence but one day we may have other global issue to deal with, that may unite us?
 
Thanks for the science update. I'll have to check what the new theories are. I am fascinated by that particular subject.

I understand your disappointment about the short life span. However when it comes to mammals we don't really have it that bad. But again I understand, I used to think similarly.

But now?

To me it just doesn't matter (for my life at least, I would still be emotionally crushed to loose a close family member or friend) I have learned that we are not meant to complete everything even if we live for 100+ years. Your lifespan then becomes so arbitrary because there will always be new things that we may never accomplish. It is a big universe after all. So if we lived 300 or 500 years would we still be feeling the same way about how life is short? I think so.

I could die tomorrow, maybe even today and you know that's ok. It doesn't mean I wont give a fight, it just means I know death is waiting for me as it does for everyone. I am at peace with that. The only thing that would bother me is the pain it may cause my loved ones.

I know you and just about most other human beings don't like the fact that we will always be at conflict. Unfortunately as far back as recorded history, it has existed. This leads me to believe it will always excist.

A question you posed was "It is true that humans thrive on violence but one day we may have other global issue to deal with, that may unite us?"

Again based on history, we have united to deal with threats and calamities or to achieve a common goal. But as soon as it is over we begin to fracture again. How many times for example has Europe been united and fractured since recorded history? Even now during a relative peaceful time between states (as compared to the past) how many gangs of youth are on the streets battling it out? Mafia? Cartels?

There are even people who WANT to die young and will achieve that through violence. I know it sucks, but that is us.
 
P.S.

Forgot to respond about the penis comment.

I love the penis lol. I am a big fan.

But of all the body parts us males have, doesn't it seem odd. I mean it doesn't grab anything like our fingers, Its not protecting anything like our butt cheeks does, it's this flesh stick with a rim on the top...and one slit? when we have to 2 eyes, 2 arms,2 hands,2 testicles....but the penis missed out on the buy one get one free special?
 
There are even people who WANT to die young and will achieve that through violence. I know it sucks, but that is us.

I suppose you refer to those teenagers who go on killing sprees on campuses or supermarkets?

Yes, there are such people.

Erich Fromm explains this in an interesting way.

He says people don't feel comfortable with an universe that is going to destroy and crush them.

So humans have a choice.

Some patiently wait until the universe destroys them.

Others want to break free and choose to destroy the world around them - they turn to violence - killing other people, killing themselves or both.

I am not saying this is my view, its what I have read.

He also has interesting views on necrophilia.

I don't want to die in a horrific way and I am scared.

I saw those mangled car wreck dudes in the morgue and really really felt bad.

You think the bones in your legs are strong but there feet was so mangled, so twisted and blue.

Jesus.

That must have hurt them a lot.

And those people stuck under trucks but still alive that we see on theYNC ?

What a way to go.

:th_smiley_eh:
 
it's this flesh stick with a rim on the top...and one slit?

Ohhh man, thats about the craziest shit I've read on this forum so far.

:sm (55): I now understand why yesterday you said you love to suck cock so much - you really are fascinated with cocks.
 
Your summary of Erich Fromm reminded me of something.

I read a book in my teens by Arthur C. Clark called "The Songs of Distant Earth"

In a nut shell, the book is about how in the late 20th century, scientist discover that our sun will go Nova in a thousand years. At the time no one is that freaked out about the discovery because who is gona care about that generation?

As the end of our solar system nears, the governments of the world come up with a 2 prong solution. First they build a big ship that will transport a few thousand survivors out of our solar system. Second, they slowly lower the population of the world by controlling birth rates and near the last decades create controlled "wars" where volunteers can end their lives by going into meaningless wars or battles with each other and even gladiatorial games were brought back.

How many of us I wonder would take that route than sitting in our living rooms waiting for the sun to go Nova?

I'd go to battle.
 
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I'd go to battle.

Why am I not surprised.

When you first entered the army and they undressed you stark naked and you saw the other dudes what did you think?

Army can be a difficult profession if you are gay?

Why did you join the military?
 
Why am I not surprised.

When you first entered the army and they undressed you stark naked and you saw the other dudes what did you think?

Army can be a difficult profession if you are gay?

Why did you join the military?


I will say the following with all honesty.

-The first few times,,,,nothing sexual entered my mind. I thought it would but it didn't. If those guys were total strangers, then maybe. But I got to meet all of them. They became more human to me, not just hot looking flesh. The relationship is that more of brothers. I hold a lot of respect for them. I don't know its strange to explain.

Are they hot? yes. But I haven't yet even fantasized about doing something with any of them. We talk dirty, yes we act like teens sometimes in the shower or bunks but nothing like a porno on the internet may portray. The dynamic and relationship is different.


-To my surprise, it has not been difficult for me. At first I thought it would because I of course like guys. But as stated above so far so good. It does get a bit awkward when they talk about fucking girls...but that's about it.
The U.S. is a little behind the curve when it comes to gays in the Military. We have a policy called DADT (Don't Ask, Don't Tell). Basically you don't declare that you are gay and your superiors don't ask you if your are.

That will soon change though with this new administration. Legislation has already been introduced to change that so that you may serve openly (HR 1283).

We know who is gay and who is not, even though we don't talk about it. Most are not that clueless that they cant put 2 and 2 together. Yet I have personally never seen that become a problem, everybody treats each other like brothers and we respect each other regardless. Now if you get dumb and start rubbing on other guys or come on to someone then it will become a problem. But that's still true in the civilian world as well....its called sexual harassment.


-I joined because in the past 20 years this country places little academic value on higher education (at least southern states, I have met people who actually look down on you for going to college) but places a high monetary value on it. So I have a large amount of student debt. The second reason I joined is to follow a tradition of service in my family.
 
Very interesting read, thank your for sharing.

What do you talk in the showers and in the bunks?

I've never been to the army. Not because I wasn't fit or anything.

I went through the tests and exams, they said I was fit.

Then in 2007 they removed the compulsory military service.

I love being in the company of other men and found a few friends there.

I think some of the other guys were gay as well but you never know.

Don't ask don't tell - what an excellent policy.
 
We just do dumb nonsensical shit in our down time. We wrestle, we try singing (horrible), we rip on each other. The first time we stepped together naked we were all a bit nervous,,,but then we started whistling at each other and cracking jokes, just juvenile crap, but it helped break the ice.

Frankly I cant wait for Don't Ask Don't Tell to become a footnote in history, which it will be soon. The younger generation today, those entering the service now just don't give a shit if your gay or not as long as you don't come on to them.
 
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Rip on each other? Sorry man, I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sounds fun the way you describe it.

What if you get a boner?

I also want to ask you a few more questions.

Do you know a young guy, from the army who croaked?

What do you think, feel about them?

What is it about your boyfriend that you like so much? How did you meet?

I mean you see a lot of hot studs naked in the shower, he must be awesome if you have been together for so long?

Stupid questions I know don't ask if you don't feel like talking.
 
Rip on each other? Sorry man, I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sounds fun the way you describe it.

What if you get a boner?

I also want to ask you a few more questions.

Do you know a young guy, from the army who croaked?

What do you think, feel about them?

What is it about your boyfriend that you like so much? How did you meet?

I mean you see a lot of hot studs naked in the shower, he must be awesome if you have been together for so long?

Stupid questions I know don't ask if you don't feel like talking.






I wear briefs. And U.S. utility uniforms tend to be a bit baggy so u can put thermals and other crap under them if need be.


Thankfully No. Nor have a seen someone die in the service personally.


His personality. The sweetest most loving guy i've met. He is not that physically attractive but I love him so much.


lol....I guess on that point. We trust each other. We have been through a lot.
 
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Thank you.

I haven't watched South Park.

So how did you and your boyfriend meet?
 
lol niceee

and you met up heheeh

did you click instantly, shag the same night? or it took weeks to develop a friendship than shag
 
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