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Meatpie
25-10-08, 10:57 AM
Oh, wow I was reading up on some info about Pittsburgh, and by chance I glanced in the "sister cities" section and found Sofia was listed there as well.

I now its lame shit but on what grounds to cities can become sisters? These are thousands of kilomtres away, completely different?

verlup1
25-10-08, 01:31 PM
I'd like to know myself. That's strange, maybe there's someone here from Pittsburgh that might know.

Meatpie
25-10-08, 02:08 PM
have you been to Pittsburgh mate?

verlup1
25-10-08, 03:04 PM
I've never been there. I heard it's rough over there, kind of like NYC back in the days.

Meatpie
25-10-08, 03:09 PM
nothing beats NYC in the 70s verlup and you know it

verlup1
25-10-08, 04:00 PM
Yeah, I think it was the most dangerous place in the world. I heard a murder when I was a child. It was early eighties. We lived on the third floor of a tenement and I heard gunshots, then running. Then I heard moaning and gasping like he couldn't breath. Next thing I heard was "Let's take his shoes!". Several minutes later the police sirens and they took the now dead guy away. I stretched my head out to see but it was around the corner, just out of sight. My mom wouldn't let me leave the house either to see better. I wanted to see his shoe-less corpse.

Meatpie
25-10-08, 04:19 PM
Thats a fucking interesting childhood of a new york boy

Never witnessed a murder but seen guns fired from close range.

It was a beautiful sunny day in 2007 and I was coming home from work, exhausted and waited for the bus.

Just as the bus came and I entered a fat ugly fucked came pulled a gun and started shooting at another dude..there were lots and lots of people at the bus stop and women started screaming

everything happened so fast but no one was killed but I was so close I saw a gun fired one or two metres away

There was another bad incident I still remember, in 2005.

I was on a tram when a young dude jumped under it. there was a dull sound and he was instant kill.

the doors were blocked and we were in a tunnel, lights went off

I and several other dudes forced open the doors.

Never felt scared or anything.

But I was scared shitless when I was attacked at a major intersection in Sofia in January 2008. Three niggers beat me at a tram stop, right on the tram tracks cars flew by, it was fucking dangerous and I thought that was it.

I survived by from then on whenever I go out I wear a knife.

verlup1
25-10-08, 04:33 PM
That guy jumping under the train! I like dead guys but that would freak me out.
Did the three guys rob you? That's so scary man, I'm glad you made it out alive. Be careful out there.
I was robbed by three guys years ago but they only jumped me and held me down while pulling my wallet out. Then they just ran away. It wasn't so scary just infuriating.

Meatpie
25-10-08, 04:46 PM
it was a tram, not a train. still heavy and was going fast

I love beating up other guys, I love violence and often got into fights...until january

those bastards were fat and strong and they surrounded me one was behind me while a fat nigger punched me.

After that I swore never to get into fights again.

Thats life man, we all learn from experience. That doesn't mean I am scared of people or to go out in the dark but I am more careful to avoid such situations in the future.

Its insane how quickly things can spiral out of control in life

bindiboi
27-10-08, 12:58 AM
I am only about an hour away from Pittsburgh and have been there many times. It's actually not that bad. You just have to know where not to go. Any large American city even the small ones have there dangerous parts. I'm lucky, where I live there is little violence.

verlup1
27-10-08, 01:07 AM
It's true. Like I said before, my neighborhood's pretty safe so far. That's why I moved there. Where I grew up was very dangerous in the past, now it's improving through "gentrification" but I still don't like walking around there really late at night. Some other parts of NYC are still very dangerous.

JMsidious
27-10-08, 06:06 AM
The American "Sister Cities" program was begun in 1956 by President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) Dwight Eisenhower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Eisenhower). It was originally administered as part of the National League of Cities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League_of_Cities), but since 1967 it has been a separate organization, Sister Cities International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Cities_International) (SCI), which is a nonprofit citizen diplomacy network creating and strengthening partnerships between U.S. and international communities in an effort to increase global cooperation at the municipal level, to promote cultural understanding and to stimulate private business and economic development. SCI leads the movement for local community development and volunteer action by motivating and empowering private citizens, municipal officials and business leaders to conduct long-term programs of mutual benefit.

They also get preferred student exchange.

verlup1
27-10-08, 06:15 AM
The American "Sister Cities" program was begun in 1956 by President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) Dwight Eisenhower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Eisenhower). It was originally administered as part of the National League of Cities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League_of_Cities), but since 1967 it has been a separate organization, Sister Cities International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Cities_International) (SCI), which is a nonprofit citizen diplomacy network creating and strengthening partnerships between U.S. and international communities in an effort to increase global cooperation at the municipal level, to promote cultural understanding and to stimulate private business and economic development. SCI leads the movement for local community development and volunteer action by motivating and empowering private citizens, municipal officials and business leaders to conduct long-term programs of mutual benefit.

They also get preferred student exchange.
Thanks for the explanation. So it's just random?

Meatpie
27-10-08, 09:32 AM
great info JM, thanks

So I move to Pittsburgh

verlup - you said some boroughs are dangerous, you mean the Bronx I suppose

Entilzha
27-10-08, 02:13 PM
Pittsburgh looke dlike avery nice city when I went thru it by Greyhound and by train!

Hope to come back there someday and see the place. It looks like a German City somewhere in the Mountains!

Meatpie
27-10-08, 03:50 PM
I hope I can be your company.

Entilzha
27-10-08, 05:30 PM
hehe, I think you have to get in line Meatpie...

Or I could do it like the Old Romans...

An Arena fight, and the last man standing gets to go out with me ;)

verlup1
27-10-08, 09:34 PM
great info JM, thanks

So I move to Pittsburgh

verlup - you said some boroughs are dangerous, you mean the Bronx I suppose
Yes parts of the Bronx are still dangerous, but some parts of it are nice like in the suburbs. The bad parts tend to be further out in the boroughs too like way out in Brooklyn. The closer to Manhattan tends to be better. A lot of neighborhoods have been going through gentrification and are improving but there are pockets of rough areas still left. I have to admit, I haven't really gone to all the dangerous parts. I used to visit family in the nicer more suburban part of the Bronx. I have never been to the other areas. but I know people from there and they tell me about the areas and the scary stuff that happens. I like it now that my neighborhood is safer, but stuff still happens every now and then.

verlup1
27-10-08, 10:08 PM
I just saw on the news that 2 young guys got shot by police in Brownsville Brooklyn, that's one of the still dangerous parts. I've never been there.
Also a hot Latino guy was beaten by police in some other part of the city. I need to look him up, he was in a gurney crying but he looked really cute covered in tattoos half naked.
His name is Michael Mineo.

Meatpie
27-10-08, 10:23 PM
some pics would be nice man.

So from where you are can you see the skyscrapers of midtown or manhattan where the towers were.

I read on the bbc today about a young female journalists killed in Little Rock.

She was attacked at her home, probably robbers.

shit it seems happens everywhere not only in big cities.

The one thing that I hate about the US is that they are many black people who commit crime - like robberies and murder and shit.

terrible, I am horrified when they show such things on CNN.

they even releazed some CCTV footage of a black dude killing a young white shop assistant.

I couldn't never live in a society like thats, sorry verlup don't get me wrong.

But we don't have a single nigger here. Not one.

We have gypsies but they are not allowed anywhere basically and live in some shanty towns of their own, like ghettos.

I love the US but I couldn't leave there, its so different from life here.

verlup1
27-10-08, 11:03 PM
I have to admit the two guys shot by the cops were blacks. Brownsville is a black neighborhood. The dangerous parts are often black but sometimes black and hispanic too.
My neighborhood is mostly Polish but also regular whites, and Mexican plus a few other hispanic groups. Not many blacks here at all. I have a good view of the Manhattan skyline from here especially the Empire State building. The Twin Towers also were clearly visible before 9/11.
In my peoples' defense though, there are lots of nice latino neighborhoods with little crime. Mostly in Queens, which is overall pretty nice. I've lived there. Queens is almost suburban but close to the center too. It's like every country is represented there in very nice neighborhoods. I lived in a Colombian and Indian neighborhood in Queens. I really liked it. Actually it's like every neighborhood has some Hispanic group in it, the good neighborhoods and bad ones. Chinese are spread all around too. I think there's a China town in every borough.
As to black people, I can't say I'm not totally biased, I got robbed by three black guys in
my old neighborhood and some blacks didn't like us growing up, but some of them did. Harlem in Manhattan and downtown Brooklyn are nicer black neighborhoods, but I haven't been to those parts enough to say for sure. I hear a lot of good stuff though.

Fideliodemo
28-10-08, 06:34 AM
Pittsburgh looke dlike avery nice city when I went thru it by Greyhound and by train!

Hope to come back there someday and see the place. It looks like a German City somewhere in the Mountains!

Pittsburgh, points east to mid Pennsylvania and points west - i.e. the Akron/Canton/Cleveland/Youngstown/Toledo areas of Ohio are very blue collar, working class, older cities where a large percentage of the population can trace its roots to immigrants overseas - old Europe, Eastern Europe, etc. The people work hard and the play hard. They worship American football pro and college - Pittsburgh - home of the Steelers, Cleveland - home of the Browns, West Virginia University - home of the Mountaineers, Penn State - home of the Nittany Lions, etc. Home games here are just a tad less explosive than football (soccer) games are on the other side of the pond. They are a proud folk and there are also a large number of Amish and Mennonite settlements in this area as well. If I had my way, I be back to this area in a heart beat. They know how to live, know what is important, and they are real, unlike the folks you meet out on the west coast - like hey dudes, what's up?! Pittsburgh is a nice place. Just like any city in any country, there are good parts and parts you don't go to after dusk. You will see a whole different side of the USA if you explore the mid-section and disregard the coasts. Nothing against NYC, Los Angeles, etc., a lot of the folks there are trying to be something they aren't or make it in a business - acting, theater, dance, so they tend to hide who they really are. There are some decent folk in these places, don't get me wrong. You should come back to the US, rent a car, get a map, and just drive - stopping where you feel like along your route and explore. We are all not as bad as our political candidates look. :)

JMsidious
28-10-08, 07:13 AM
Thanks for the explanation. So it's just random?


Pretty much - but they try to match according to economics, arts, population and such.

Meatpie
28-10-08, 07:33 AM
Pittsburgh, points east to mid Pennsylvania and points west - i.e. the Akron/Canton/Cleveland/Youngstown/Toledo areas of Ohio are very blue collar, working class, older cities where a large percentage of the population can trace its roots to immigrants overseas - old Europe, Eastern Europe, etc. The people work hard and the play hard. They worship American football pro and college - Pittsburgh - home of the Steelers, Cleveland - home of the Browns, West Virginia University - home of the Mountaineers, Penn State - home of the Nittany Lions, etc. Home games here are just a tad less explosive than football (soccer) games are on the other side of the pond. They are a proud folk and there are also a large number of Amish and Mennonite settlements in this area as well. If I had my way, I be back to this area in a heart beat. They know how to live, know what is important, and they are real, unlike the folks you meet out on the west coast - like hey dudes, what's up?! Pittsburgh is a nice place. Just like any city in any country, there are good parts and parts you don't go to after dusk. You will see a whole different side of the USA if you explore the mid-section and disregard the coasts. Nothing against NYC, Los Angeles, etc., a lot of the folks there are trying to be something they aren't or make it in a business - acting, theater, dance, so they tend to hide who they really are. There are some decent folk in these places, don't get me wrong. You should come back to the US, rent a car, get a map, and just drive - stopping where you feel like along your route and explore. We are all not as bad as our political candidates look. :)

this was sooo well written and informative, thanks.

Unfortunately lots of bad bad things happened in the US over the last several years - from worst terrorists attack in history, to worst, deadliest, costlies and most powerful hurricanes, to a global financial meltdown that some claim originates in America.

From what I see on TV I just could fit in that society. Too much consumerism, waste of energy and stiff competition to live in LA or NYC and get good jobs.

I was absolutely amazed when they showed some employees leaving banks on Times Square, some even carried their own laptops.

verlup1
29-10-08, 01:14 AM
Yeah, it's too depressing hearing about the financial stuff so I haven't been.
I hope things improve. Maybe with a new president.

Meatpie
29-10-08, 09:30 AM
We are facing somewhat of a crisis here too. Many people continue to lose their jobs, factories close.

I am really scared of losing my job too. Also banks won't give you a morgage here and if you already have on you now pay double.

Hope we pull through.